Martin Scorsese is one of my mother’s absolute favourite filmmakers. She always manages to go into the deeper levels of his narrations. She is also crazy about the cultural history of Japan. So when Scorsese utilises his thematic moral core to the Japanese culture and brings onscreen a massive epic religious drama, for sure we will have some thoughts about it.

We talk about and compare both the film and the original novel. And as the culture plays a big role in the story, we also paint the landscape of an historical rural Japan in 1600’s. Of course we don’t forget to put down our own two cents on the whole issue of the silent God.

I was having a cold during our talk so my voice is not in the best shape. Also it happened to be that my baby girl was born during these months when we recorded the episode and her crying can be heard in the background, because the apartment where we stayed is not big enough. Sorry about that. And try not to worry about it, she is taken care of.

Spoilers: We talk openly about the plot, so I would strongly recommend to watch the film first.


  • [00:00] – Introduction
  • [03:45] – The novel
  • [08:15] – Scorsese’s visual narration and connection
  • [12:45] – Priest’s journey through prisons
  • [18:30] – Japan and Christianity
  • [27:30] – Kagemusha
  • [34:00] – Heart of Darkness
  • [39:30] – The dividing of perspective
  • [58:00] – Kichijiro
  • [1:03:00] – The ending and martyrdom
  • [1:15:00] – Back to Kichijiro
  • [1:23:00] – Something light in the end

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